Foji ft Sudesh Kumari - Whatever! (Out Now)

@Balwinder Singh Rai

Sir, since you have s[censored]d time to reply let me clarify and reply to following points:

1. I wrote about insulting the purpose of something so dear to us written in ragas. Meaning that people should reflect upon what the theory and purpose is behind it. Meaning you should learn. Learning is one the most important principles in Sikhism, right?.

Clearly your understanding was taken out of context. Se my comment below.

2. The "insulting" part was written in general, not specifically Foji.

3. The comments are not about Foji not being a good writer, family oriented musician, not being a good person etc. It's about his singing - nothing else.

His music is probably the most family-friendly ever. The issue is not about that.

4. Singing in different octaves is not the same as singing different sur. It's just shifting into a higher/lower octave.

5.I also wrote that learning the basics fundamentals can be enough as well (see Mickey Singh).

6. I'm not an artist.

@Balwinder Singh Rai

Thank your for your out of content reply. Please read before you reply or assume. My comment is clearly written below. Don't take it out of context.

My comment said the following:

Quote:

i could take it as far and say people who can't sing are also insulting the purpose (not the religion itself) of Sri Gru Granth Sahib being written in RAGAS for a REASON.

For your knowledge, i would like to lead your attention to the following words:

1. "I could take it as far" --> Meaning i won't
2. Insulting the purpose (not the religion itself) of...written in RAGAS for a reason --> Meaning the insulting the purpose of something which is written in ragas (musical notes) for a reason and not the religion.

Don't read that you think you see, but what read what is written.

One thing in sikhi there is no room for guman and hunkar, one thing weeman is saying that foji is insulting the sikhi. Judging by your coments you are full of hunkar, pootr neema ho. Your classical teacher should also be teaching you this?? It also says in sikhi that you should never put any person down and think they are below you and is all about positiveness, you are totally opposite to this. There are many types of music and singing, classical, folk, quwali, ghazals, pop rap ect let me tell you that you do not need to have classical knowledge tobe able to sing. You need to know about sur which foji def does. Also some of the good uk singers you mention can only sing in 3-5 sur you call this good? I have seen foji singing over both octaves and seen him do Kirtan so this tells me he knows something about classical music and he has had training. Also He has been praised for his singing and WRITING eg sukshinder shinda, guffaw Mann, hans raaj, saleem, surinder khan, gulaam Ali.....

Quoting SunnyInYerFace:

You know what Weeman, you remind me of myself, when I was young and stupid. It is for this reason that I am not going to discuss any further, and also because it is fine to use religion for spirituality and teaching, but twisting it to justify your misguided opinion can be a dangerous thing.

Would be interesting to hear anyone elses grown up views on whether:
- over 50 weeks in the download chart, writing, producing and singing your own songs, over 1 million YouTube views, and a Best Newcomer Award justifies being called a singer;
- being called a singer is the exclusive preserve of a fraternity who have taken a course in it's classical form, and that this gives those such as the Most Righteous Keyboard Warrior Mr Weeman the right to denounce anyone else as singers regardless of their achievements, whether in isolation or in comparison to his own, without actually knowing what the artist has done?

Foji is that you? You owe me money man :-D

I forgot one important thing. That might clarify my point.

Just as much you feel it is an insult to give Foji credit (which i however do, but not as a singer), it is exactly as much insulting to hear people calling themselves singers and actually insult hundreds years of precious knowledge called wisdom of singing in the sense of classical music. May it be folk, pop or classical - all the greats from Chamkila, Manak, Gurda, Sabar Koti, Saardool, Satinder+ many more learned singing.

i could take it as far and say people who can't sing are also insulting the purpose (not the religion itself) of Sri Gru Granth Sahib being written in RAGAS for a REASON.

Don't call my disapproval of not giving acknowledgment as insulting. The biggest insult are those who use the word singer for their reference.

For millions music is their religion, their soul, heart and their GOD. Join the journey if you like, but even praying to God requires some work and learning before you start praying :-)

@Sunny

People make mistakes and so do i. No insult was intending.

However i'll can't congratulate someone who can't sing brother. I don't know wether it was you or someone else i wrote it to, but in my previous post i also wrote the average level in UK can't even be compared to what average is in India.

He is according to UK level average or speaking the truth above average. My quoted comments were probably during his initial release and he did improve since. However I would still not rate him as a singer.

Becoming a singer requires work - a lot of hard work. It requires knowledge about the basics and the fundamentals of music. You won't be able to understand me because you don't even acknowledge music as something which fits in the field of "education" like the rest.

Music is based on such fundamentals that whatever you sing can be played and recreated on harmonium, guitar, piano, saxophone or any instrument with basic knowledge of the notes (swaras).